Top or Back First

Talk about musical instrument construction, setup and repair.

Moderators: kiwigeo, Jeremy D

Post Reply
Lex
Myrtle
Posts: 52
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 pm

Top or Back First

Post by Lex » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:23 pm

I Just wanted to get some discussion going on what is best, ie Pro s or Cons of gluing a back on first or the top.
I normally put the back first as then I can clean up any glue squeeze out that could be seen through the sound hole, but would be interested in any Ideas or comments and what others do.

Cheers Tod G

User avatar
Mark McLean
Blackwood
Posts: 1124
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:03 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: Top or Back First

Post by Mark McLean » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:26 pm

I normally put the back first as then I can clean up any glue squeeze out that could be seen through the sound hole
Yep, that is my thinking too. However, I often don't need to clean up much with the reverse kerfing that I currently use - so it doesn't end up making a difference. So, I am open to a convincing argument to do it the other way around.

User avatar
demonx
Blackwood
Posts: 1395
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:55 pm
Location: Ballarat Victoria
Contact:

Re: Top or Back First

Post by demonx » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:07 pm

I'm only new to the Acoustic scene, but the person guiding me has instructed back first.

jeffhigh
Blackwood
Posts: 1536
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:50 am
Location: Caves Beach, NSW
Contact:

Re: Top or Back First

Post by jeffhigh » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:24 pm

I'm Top first, suits my way of building.
I put the soundboard face down on the dish in the go bar deck and use my short go bar set around the rim and lining to clamp during gluing.
Then I glue in a tight fitting fillet between UTB and neck block and put in any bridge plate pickups etc
Then I glue the back on using the go bars(with shims to the back to protect it) With care to use an appropriate amount of glue spread on the linings, squeeze out into the box is not a problem.

User avatar
kiwigeo
Admin
Posts: 10687
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:57 pm
Location: Adelaide, Sth Australia

Re: Top or Back First

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:41 pm

I can think of equal reasons to fit the back or top first. Top first is currently my preference as it allows me to visually check the integrity of the adhesion of the top around the neck block area.
Martin

User avatar
ozziebluesman
Blackwood
Posts: 1538
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:12 am
Location: Townsville
Contact:

Re: Top or Back First

Post by ozziebluesman » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:45 pm

I'm top first and then I can fine tune the braces if necessary.
When I glue the back on I clamp up with back on the bench so gravity keeps the glue from running.
Not using too much glue is also important to keep it all tidy in there.
Cheers
Alan
"Play to express, not to impress"

Alan Hamley

http://www.hamleyfineguitars.com/

User avatar
Allen
Blackwood
Posts: 5251
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:39 pm
Location: Cairns, Australia
Contact:

Re: Top or Back First

Post by Allen » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:01 am

Spanish style building, so it's top first.
Allen R. McFarlen
https://www.brguitars.com
Facebook
Cairns, Australia

User avatar
peter.coombe
Blackwood
Posts: 732
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:52 pm
Location: Bega, NSW
Contact:

Re: Top or Back First

Post by peter.coombe » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:51 am

I'm top first on mandolins and guitars.
Peter Coombe - mandolin, mandola and guitar maker
http://www.petercoombe.com

User avatar
Steve.Toscano
Blackwood
Posts: 495
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:43 pm
Location: Port Stephens NSW

Re: Top or Back First

Post by Steve.Toscano » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:44 pm

As per Allen, (mostly) spanish style so top first in a solera.
For non spanish style i still do top first out of habit.

kiwinoz62
Blackwood
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:05 pm
Location: sydney

Re: Top or Back First

Post by kiwinoz62 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:31 pm

I'm currently building an OM at Gerard Gilet workshop in Sydney ( a real experience ) and they put back on first then the top.
All because of glue squeeze out and then having to clean it up.
cheers wayne . . .

'keep on strummin'

Lex
Myrtle
Posts: 52
Joined: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 pm

Re: Top or Back First

Post by Lex » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:01 pm

It seems that its a personal choice or a choice for the style or way one builds , as I said before ,I normally put the back first ,but with my current build I have decided to go with top first so that I can check my neck angle,pre fretboad hopefully get that geometry closer than I have in the past, and also should make it easier to install under saddle transducer, well I will know soon enough if the decision was right or not. :D

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 50 guests