Forum's Choice
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I can't decide what my next builds going to be . I have no commissions currently so now's a good chance to cross one off the wish/bucket list & have a bit of fun.
I was going to go with the 'smaller than a dready' twelve stringer (using my double back system) but then saw Tim Kill's Reso Weezy in Bob's Port Fairy instrumentworx photo's (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4129) & it got my mind working in a whole new direction bugger it! So I thought it might be fun to let you guys decide! Which ever choice looses won't get eliminated altogether, it'll just get built later down the track!
I was going to go with the 'smaller than a dready' twelve stringer (using my double back system) but then saw Tim Kill's Reso Weezy in Bob's Port Fairy instrumentworx photo's (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4129) & it got my mind working in a whole new direction bugger it! So I thought it might be fun to let you guys decide! Which ever choice looses won't get eliminated altogether, it'll just get built later down the track!
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I went with the resonator because you pull off different and unique so well.
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I'm still insisting you make it a square-neck though so you have to learn how to play slide!
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I voted for a reso and a square neck would be the go.
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That ones on the list Martin, just filling up one of middle row seats currently, I can hardly play 6 strings that well so what the hell am I going to do with 13 courses of the buggers! (I have Van Edwards Baroque plans & cd sitting there for a future build)kiwigeo wrote:Wheres the lute option???
I know Sean's keen for a square neck so that could be an option but that'd mean me having to learn to play it! (or he could show off some of his excellent blues chops in a video for you, once I've finished it!)
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What about a 12 string, square neck, resonator, arch-lute.
Regards
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I went 12-string---also my next one, I think---don't like resonator guitars
I wish I was half the man my dog thinks I am....
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Make the 12stringer, great challenge for bracing playability etc,
either way, with you on the tools its gonna be a gem.
look forward to it mate !!!
Cheers,
Christian.
either way, with you on the tools its gonna be a gem.
look forward to it mate !!!
Cheers,
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Bob Connor
Played a 12 for years but definitely the reso for some slippery slide
Steve
Played a 12 for years but definitely the reso for some slippery slide
Steve
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I voted for the
"smaller than a dready' twelve stringer (using my double back system) "
Just because I was wondering, whats a double back system ?
If I had to choose on what I'd like listen to being played right now ,I think I would go the other way. I didn't think of that at the time though.
"smaller than a dready' twelve stringer (using my double back system) "
Just because I was wondering, whats a double back system ?
If I had to choose on what I'd like listen to being played right now ,I think I would go the other way. I didn't think of that at the time though.
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It's a method I first used on a Maccafferri build (shouldn't really say it's my method because it's probably been used before Nothing new in Luthiery! I just came up with my own ideas & theories) about halfway down this page and also on two subsequent builds Rob, here. I believe (without any hard scientific evidence or numbers to back it up! ) that it produces slightly more volume from a smaller body because the back is more active & less influenced (read damped) by the player's gut, which in my case is a major influence!auscab wrote:I voted for the
"smaller than a dready' twelve stringer (using my double back system) "
Just because I was wondering, whats a double back system ?
Here's, also, a short discussion on my idea's behind the method viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2844 if you are interested.
"Jesus Loves You."
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Nice to hear in church but not in a Mexican prison.
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I voted informal ,oh wait ,that was a another poll. I went for the reso because I have enough odds and sods to build a simple plank lap steel. I want to see if I have an affinity for it or it's just another instrument to add to the heap of unplayed strings:? .
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[quote="NickI believe (without any hard scientific evidence or numbers to back it up! ) that it produces slightly more volume from a smaller body because the back is more active & less influenced (read damped) by the player's gut, which in my case is a major influence!
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No good for gutless players like myself
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No good for gutless players like myself
Martin
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I voted for the 12 string SJ Nick. Both would be excellent because that is all you do..but, I really like ziricote 'and' Brent Cole's bear claw sitka so that combo ticks all the boxes for me.
How about an inner back plate of spruce
Cheers
Kim
How about an inner back plate of spruce
Cheers
Kim
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Got to be the smaller than dready 12 stringer Nick...
Bearclaw, Ziricote... Who'd pass that up?
Jeremy.
Bearclaw, Ziricote... Who'd pass that up?
Jeremy.
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Kim wrote:I voted for the 12 string SJ Nick. Both would be excellent because that is all you do..but, I really like ziricote 'and' Brent Cole's bear claw sitka so that combo ticks all the boxes for me.
How about an inner back plate of spruce
Cheers
Kim
I like that Kim. That would be a great experiment.
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There was a guy in the states that was heading down the spruce track at the same time as I did the Macca (how twilight zone was that?!!), he started posting on one of the forums (Dennis's I think) but the post never did progress past the putting the inner plate in so I don't know how successful he was or if he even finished it, he braced the inner plate similar to a classical I believe, I must try finding that thread again. Spruce could indeed be the go Kim.Kim wrote:How about an inner back plate of spruce
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Kim
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Bob Connor wrote:What about a 12 string, square neck, resonator, arch-lute.
Regards
Carefull Bob, This guy would find a way of doing it
I went the 12 SJ , would like to see your take on that
I hope you post your progress, could be an interesting build to watch.
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Go for the 12 Nick ! you won't regret it . Mine gets a fair amount of playing. Compensate all the strings and you'll find it awesome. Have another quick listen to John Butler !
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12 string, 12 frets - very cool...
http://www.goreguitars.com.au/main/page ... jects.html (bottom of the page).
http://www.goreguitars.com.au/main/page ... jects.html (bottom of the page).
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Forgot to mention ! Also a 6 pin bridge ( saves a heap of weight and smaller footprint )
Here's the tute link :
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=354 I also went for a 13 fret 24.9 " scale . Just a little easier to play and less tension on the neck. Check it out .
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=60
Here's the tute link :
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=354 I also went for a 13 fret 24.9 " scale . Just a little easier to play and less tension on the neck. Check it out .
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=60
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Thanks Craig & Trev, compelling reasons right there! I've always loved your 12 string Craig & have your bridge thread bookmarked.
Trevor, did you still keep a 25" or longer scale & shift the bridge back or did you shorten it (similar to Craig's 24.9)? Good to hear that even though the neck/body join is at the twelfth you still retained that big sound too by the bridge's more central placement in the vibrating zone. Both give me valuable food for thought.
Trevor, did you still keep a 25" or longer scale & shift the bridge back or did you shorten it (similar to Craig's 24.9)? Good to hear that even though the neck/body join is at the twelfth you still retained that big sound too by the bridge's more central placement in the vibrating zone. Both give me valuable food for thought.
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And DONT f&^%k up the compensation at the saddle!!!Craig wrote:Forgot to mention ! Also a 6 pin bridge ( saves a heap of weight and smaller footprint )
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I used 24.9" (632mm) on a Gibson 185-ish body shape.Nick wrote:Trevor, did you still keep a 25" or longer scale...
Nut and saddle compensation is something to think about on a 12 string. Makes a big difference.kiwigeo wrote:And DONT f&^%k up the compensation at the saddle!!!
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